Tuesday 22 April 2008

Reply: kyd and pau, and sumthing else

i had a feeling(just a feeling) that when i wrote that entry a few days ago, there will always be people who have other views,ideas etc about it. some one even went as far(or near,depending on how u look at it) as to give a long comment which made the entry longer than it actually is. regardless,if ure reading this, i really appreciate ur thoughts and views on the matter. i really didnt want to do this reply in the first place but after thinking it through,i might as well just do it for a reason i dare not tell(i know what ure thinking,its ego,pride bla3,well think wtv u like, i'll just accept the fact that some ppl are so negatively minded..look whos talking).

this is gonna look unbalance seeing that i am the one holding the pen(the author of the blog laa) but there are truth in my words if not all of em are true(please do correct me if i'm wrong). Dr. Frank M. Sacks of Harvard Medical School's Channing Laboratory in his experiment which can be found in Aug. 7 issue of The Journal of the American Medical Association, has proven,i repeat PROVEN that eating meat can cause negative health effects which in other words is BAD. however, just because it is bad,does not mean that its no good. Meat and oxygen are just examples of how good things can be bad if u look at another angle.if one argues that cigs are always bad for you then how bout soft drinks or red meat?vehicles running on fuel if u think bout it,they have exhaust fumes that are dangerous to ppl and environment,if i used the same argument u used for second hand smokes, cars running on petrol and airplanes could actually be haram.

Almost if not everything in this world as we know it has its pros and cons. in the book the logic of life written by Tim Harford, he agrees with Von Neumann and Chris Ferguson among others that people act rationally when they do sumthing(i really enjoyed reading it,have ago if u have the time).based on this understanding, if people smoke then those ppl must have calculated(either conscious or unconsciously) that the pros out weigh the cons. i quote

danial syafiq said...
spot on fiqss. wanted to comment exactly the same thing. i mean wtf? whats the good point of smoking? come on, ill belanja the person who can at least come out with 3 plus sides of smoking. =/
21 April 2008 05:32

i am gonna give u ur 3 reasons(although there are more,i just wanna keep this brief) so u can belanje me when i get back unless of course its wrong.
1)Smoking lowers Parkinson's disease risk
Evan L. Thacker from Harvard School of Public Health and colleague reported in the March 6th issue of Neurology, compared to people who had never smoked and were considered to have "normal" Parkinson's disease risk, former smokers had a 22-percent lower risk of Parkinson's disease and current smokers had a 73-percent lower risk.
2)Reduces the risk of Breast Cancer
Jean-Sebastien Brunet, lead author of a study being published in the Journal of the National Cancer Institute, that the incidence of breast cancer was 54 percent lower among heavy smokers than among nonsmokers.
3)Less risk of Alzheimer
In an article in The Times of London (9/7/93), Dr. James Le Fanu provided an examination of the research on smoking and its apparent protective effect for certain diseases. Dr. Le Fanu stated unequivocally: "Smokers have a 50 per cent reduced risk of developing Alzheimer's--and the more smoked the greater the protection."
I have to point out that all these arent the opinion a 19 year old but opinions of established medical researchers in their own fields.

moving on to the point of whether it is makruh or haram. i have to say i just dont know.it could halal for all i know . its one of those things that u were told ever since u were young and u still believe to this day. i'm at the stage of my life where i like to question when it is in doubt .i'm still confuse though which is the right way to go, ok until its proven not ok,or not ok until proven ok..in this matter i would assume most ppl to say not ok until proven ok but in diff circumstances(eg court cases) if u think of it as innocent until proven guilty or guilty until proven innocent,i'll prob get a diff answer.

i really appreciate ur thoughts and views and i quote u kyd,who quoted the quran
Firman Allah s.w.t.: Allah menghalalkan bagi mereka segala yang baik dan mengharamkan bagi mereka yang buruk-buruk.
(Al-A'raf : 157)
i am not an Islamic scholar but i think it is safe for me to assume that most of us if not me alone, dont know to what extent is baik and buruk2,i have nvr heard that its been specified in the quran(do tell if it is).eg, most would say the act of killing is wrong but when its extended to killing as a result of defending ones life is it different?lets say he can defend himself witout killing the other person but still kills the other person?..what bout if he is able to defend himself witout killing the person but chooses to kill the person so that he wont be killd if ever he is caught of guard? theres so many different ways to look at sumthing so deciding whether its good or bad depends on how u look at it.

i have to stress now that if anyones a non smoker and reads this and wants to start smoking(dont think that'll ever happen,but just in case)please dont.i didnt write this to encourage ppl to smoke, just wntd to point out that there could be other views on it. however both me and the ppl i quote can be wrong,Einstein once said " If the facts dont fit the theory,change the facts". and please bear in mind,although i am giving proof of smokes can be good,it does have negative effects. but most ppl probably know what they are so no need to say a word. i'll try not to do another reply on this particular topic even if sumone writes(types) a 400 word essay comment underneath cos this is one of those things that can be dragd on and i prefer to do simple entries like my life and what i do. apologies to both kyd and pau for referring to their comments witout their consent. on that note,till i find something better and simpler to blog about,later

8 comments:

danial syafiq said...
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danial syafiq said...

k la fine ill take your word for it. maybe there are some benefits/plus sides to smoking.

on another note, you learn econs right? familiar with this?

opportunity costs VS opportunity gains

i think this is beyond doubt -> with regards to smoking, the cons clearly outweigh the pros.

i rest my case.

p/s dont worry ill treat you when you balik msia nanti since you came out with those 3 instances.

p/p/s oh please smokers out there i dont hate you guys at all. dont get me wrong here. im just merely presenting my stance on smoking, not smokers. =)

Anonymous said...

subconsciously/consciously,smokers would disagree with u cos the fact that they are smoking shows that they believe its benefits outweigh its cost.(assuming ppl always act rationally,which at the moment is my belief)
however,i agree wit u that publicise cons outweigh the pros at this moment but the gap between the 2 are getting smaller.

p/s..yess free lunch!

Anonymous said...

u know what? u always like to say ppl think negative bla3 but u gotta realize that by thinking that other ppl r thinking negatively,makes u negative as well. get it? tak baik buruk sangka kat org fay.

if ure wondering i was referring to this:
(i know what ure thinking,its ego,pride bla3,well think wtv u like, i'll just accept the fact that some ppl are so negatively minded).


and i thot of replying a loooooot of other stuff to ur above said points. nevertheless i shall not bcos nampak nye u dah banyak hint2 jgn comment panjang2. yeah yeah i know nnt i curik ur spotlight. hahahaha kiddin =p okies next time imma just comment pendeeeeeeeeek gile. aite. hehe

last words,say NO to smoking.
cheers~

Faisal said...

there is a couple of misunderstandings.
this:
(i know what ure thinking,its ego,pride bla3,well think wtv u like, i'll just accept the fact that some ppl are so negatively minded).
was meant to be a JOKE,i've added a few words in the post so that its more obvious.

and in what way did i hint that i didnt want any long comments.i'll i said was i'll try not to do a reply on that topic.

"u always like to say ppl think negative bla3".. we dont even converse that often and u think i always say that?oh my...

danial syafiq said...

both of you! lets not start a war here! =)

oh btw,
smokers would disagree with u cos the fact that they are smoking shows that they believe its benefits outweigh its cost.

i beg to differ, seriously. ill just leave it at that.

Anonymous said...

i dunno bout u but at this moment i actually believe every sane person thinks rationally.von neuman who was dubbed a demigod in his time thinks its true.

r.iskandar said...

I don't have the time so far to reply to this post, instead, i have a link that u cud try and have a look. Although it does not answer ur question 80-100% but sufficient for the time being. I assure u, i'll come up with my own original reply when i have the time and well versed in this particular issue. off to do my research...

http://www.utusan.com.my/utusan/info.asp?y=2004&dt=0216&pub=Utusan_Malaysia&sec=Bicara_Agama&pg=ba_01.htm